Oops didn't see this till now either,
please get well soon LITS, you are a good wife caring too for hubby (making him go to DR.)...hope both of your health situations improve soon!
CHG
my wife and my close friend life is too short is recovering from a hernia operation performed yesterday.
she is doing fine, just a bit sore .
she worked really hard in bethel and had a hernia before from lifting too much in her job back there.
Oops didn't see this till now either,
please get well soon LITS, you are a good wife caring too for hubby (making him go to DR.)...hope both of your health situations improve soon!
CHG
i was raised a jw and my dad was an elder.
my parents divorced after my dad decided to leave the "truth.
" i was baptised when i was 16, after being severely pressured by my mom to do so.
Wow...thank you for sharing that with us...and welcome
It is amazing how a warped sense of "loyalty" to an organization can make people justify lying (to the cops), blackmailing you, holding your kids hostage...
I know that the elders gave me some really bad advice in the past that really f*cked up my life for a while, but not to the degree that you went through...I am sorry
But it was heartwarming to read that your husband and you have reconcilled, and I know your family (especially your children & grandchild) are doing better too outside of the cult.
It is my wish that you gain some peace and look forward to some better times ahead (yes, it is hard when JW family shuns you...but trust me you are ultimately better off without the truly "bad" influence)
CHG
one hot, hot thursday, in july of 1987, i worked a half day, drove from wilcox county to mobile county to pick up a sister, then hit i-10 for new orleans to attend the convention which began the next day.. the evening traffic was unbelievable; when i finally arrived and pulled into our hotel parking lot, i was shaking like a leaf in the wind.
we checked in, and after showering, i fell into bed and slept like a drunk person.. the next morning, friday, was a complete blur as we made our way to the superdome.
i don't remember anything that was discussed that day, just the searing heat as we returned to the hotel.. after a long shower, i again fell into a deep slumber.
aaaahh!!!! waking up at 5:30 am to help make sandwiches, wrap bagels and cream cheese, and stirr stinkly pasta salad in an assembly line (with no coffee) for a few hours....then walking like a zombie to line up at the door at 8:30 and mad dash to find our favorite seat (blue section, bottom row-more leg room), and veg out until music started at 9:40, try to stay awake and take notes....and that is just one morning of a three day dessent into hell- (yes some years with no air cond. at the silverdome it felt exactly like hell should feel)
I did always look forward to the drama though- mom would let me eat candy through it and I didn't have to take notes
fast forward to the last convo I attended....was a blurr, I was mentally checked out, and spent the whole time texting to my "worldly" friends...lol- everyone sitting around me thought I was texting my JW friend who was doing parking lot duty- I did any volunteer stuff I could to get out of sitting in that convention hall
so glad to miss my 2nd convo :) thanks for the walk down memory lane
CHG
paradise-related greetings and meetup plans.
on a couple of jw fb sites, people often say things like "i'll see you in paradise," or "i'm going to travel and meet all of you guys in paradise and hang out with your lions.
" and on the jw news, library, etc.
That stuff seems so "creepy" now that I am out...
I remember at international conventions people would hang banners on the last day which said "see you in paradise", or a CO once said it at his last visit before being reassigned- I remember it being a sentimental statement since we knew we realistically were not going to see each other again, but the whole FB phenomenon puts that on a whole new level...eeewww
CHG
hello all at jwn,.
so my mom called to tell me that my dad wont be able to come back home, he has been on kidney dialysis (along with having congestive heart failure and diabetes and dimentia...) but now he is breaking down and will have to be admitted to a hospice center for the remainder of his time left (without dialysis wont be two weeks).
most of you know my situation, faded (not dfd or dad) but most of my family treats me like i am disfellowshipped except my mom and she keeps getting warnings from elders to cut off dealings with me- my dad is inactive but as head of the household he demands that i be able to visit and take care of mom and dad (so my mom must be submissive to his wishes).
Quandry you said it..your advice encompasses what I need to do exactly- thank you
Hortensia- I am sorry about your mom, thank you for sharing your personal experience, I'm glad you got that time and the end for her
Mad- always appreciate your support thank you
hello all at jwn,.
so my mom called to tell me that my dad wont be able to come back home, he has been on kidney dialysis (along with having congestive heart failure and diabetes and dimentia...) but now he is breaking down and will have to be admitted to a hospice center for the remainder of his time left (without dialysis wont be two weeks).
most of you know my situation, faded (not dfd or dad) but most of my family treats me like i am disfellowshipped except my mom and she keeps getting warnings from elders to cut off dealings with me- my dad is inactive but as head of the household he demands that i be able to visit and take care of mom and dad (so my mom must be submissive to his wishes).
Thanks all for your encouragement and sympathies, it brings me comfort to hear your thoughts and experiences, no matter what we do- we could cry scream and shout about the cycle of life but it doesn't change the ultimate outcome- I was successful in keeping peace today and holding in my anger in regards to situations I cannot control- (Coffee Shop Guy can babble any time )
Thanks for your support again JWN
CHG
if you just want the juicy details where i leave, i'll make disclaimer where it begins, if you just want to know what happened with the elders and organization after i realized it wasn't true, i'll mark that seperately.
we didn't do jack shit in service, or in the congregation.
maybe this was how jehovah came about?
thanks for sharing Jonathan, your story made me cry- is all too familiar- yes it is cathardic to share, & it helped me to share in your pain (I hoped it helped you write it)
best of luck to you & please keep us posted with update to how you and your wife is doing (and your sister)
CHG
oh yea...I will take a caramel latte please, extra foam & caramel drizzel (chocolate sprinkles if you have em)
i was reading a thread on here that got me thinking.. what is the purpose of confession if not another method of mind control?
back in ancient israel, confession was just this thing you did if you were a good jew.
just like observing sabbath, fasting.. you get the point.
I am in the same company as all of you who married a JW, I had almost same experience as Morbidz- I was also PISSED when hubby all of a sudden had a pang of guilt because he was just appointed a MS and went crazy- he remembered one time in his car when he was touching me thru my underwear and he thinks I orgasmed (I was faking it of course),
we had the elders meeting but no official JC and no private reproof-
sizemik wins though...stoned while giving your talk made me snort my drink out my nose- lol
CHG
hello all at jwn,.
so my mom called to tell me that my dad wont be able to come back home, he has been on kidney dialysis (along with having congestive heart failure and diabetes and dimentia...) but now he is breaking down and will have to be admitted to a hospice center for the remainder of his time left (without dialysis wont be two weeks).
most of you know my situation, faded (not dfd or dad) but most of my family treats me like i am disfellowshipped except my mom and she keeps getting warnings from elders to cut off dealings with me- my dad is inactive but as head of the household he demands that i be able to visit and take care of mom and dad (so my mom must be submissive to his wishes).
Jamie,
thanks for your thoughts too- yes I am trying to keep in mind my mom has been with dad for over 50 years- she will need my help through this and after the dust settles...I hope I can still continue this fade for her
CHG
hello all at jwn,.
so my mom called to tell me that my dad wont be able to come back home, he has been on kidney dialysis (along with having congestive heart failure and diabetes and dimentia...) but now he is breaking down and will have to be admitted to a hospice center for the remainder of his time left (without dialysis wont be two weeks).
most of you know my situation, faded (not dfd or dad) but most of my family treats me like i am disfellowshipped except my mom and she keeps getting warnings from elders to cut off dealings with me- my dad is inactive but as head of the household he demands that i be able to visit and take care of mom and dad (so my mom must be submissive to his wishes).
thanks for your quick responces everyone
serenitynow- thanks for your reply, you have a good suggestion (unfortunately, my best friend is CSG & I have "friends" but not on a intimacy level where I would ask them to take time off work & travel an hour away with me)....my brother will be there- he is a fader like me (read crisis of conscience & is also trying to heal from WTS) and he will be a great support
broken promises- thank you too, I also hope for a peaceful exit for him- he has been in so much pain I just hope they can make it comfortable for him...I think mentally he is ready to go. I do not know what his hopes for any afterlife are....he is a baptized JW but just went along to marry my mom in the 1950's
emptyinside- thanks for your reply...I never know what to say to others in these circumstances but it is a comfort to me to have people acknowledge some understanding on any level
journey-on- I appreciate your advise, I fear that JWs will say stupid things...but I am preparing a "broken record" responce to any foolishness- the only thing I want is to honor and respect my father and be there as a daughter for both of my parents- the rest of them can leave me alone- I hope my guy can understand that he may not be able to be there for me in person on this one...but I never doubt that he will be my greatest support
Jadeen- do JWs ever really behave???lol....I hope to remain calm and strong and give them no opening to get all preachy bout resurrection hopes and "you better do something if you want to see him again in paradise"
GL- thanks for your sympathies...my mom is the one making the funeral arrangements, she insisted on a JW service but I believe that because he is inactive they will not let her have it at the hall- so graveside it will be, my dad doesn't give a rats ass about it (he is just letting her have her way) so it will be interesting- unfortunately he is not really lucid to have these last minute conversations with.... dad did get to meet Coffee House Guy once when mom was at an assembly, it was a positive meeting and I'm glad we had that moment
Flipper- thanks to you and Mrs. for your well wishes, as always CGS and I thank you for your support....I will stick to the plan :)
CHG